Long back I had written a post with the subject "Astrology Books and Authors for Beginners". There I mentioned that a beginner should never read books by Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali. Recently I started receiving lots of hate emails with different kind of threats. So I thought I'll publish this post as a reply to all those people -
Her is my reply to one of such email from somebody named Avatar Singh -
Dear Mr. Singh, This is democracy. I am free to write about my opinion and views. I have written this after reading his lots of books and magazines. There are reason for writing this and as a senior astrologer in the industry, I have reason for saying so. What you are telling is your opinion and you are free to express that. But that doesn't mean that I should change my opinion.
Hope you will understand this. I can understand that you are his follower and I have no objection to that. I strongly believe that his books should not be read by a beginner.
Thanks & Regards,
Punit Pandey
[Update]
Hate mails are not taking the name of stopping. People are threatening me to drag to court, using tantra on me and any other way they can think of to harm. For anybody who is trying to threaten me, I want to make clear that I am ready to fight any kind of battle whether legal or tantra way. Anyways, here are few mails from Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali's followers -
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Stop spreading lies about Gurudev or we will prove to you what Tantra can do when it is done to harm.I know my guruji will scold me for this but honest to god we will make your life hell if you dont stop your disgusting work.This is not a threat...this is a warning. take care be careful sandeep
2.
PUNDIT MAHODAYA WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS MAKING FUN OF OUR GURUDEV AND THATS INTOLERABLE. YOUR LOW THINKING IS VERY MUCH CLEAR FROM WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN. WE ARE SURE THAT U DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOTU ASTROLOGY OTHERWISE YOU WOUDN'T HAVE DARED TO EVEN THINK OF DOING IT. WE ARE MASTER IN OUR FIELDS DON'T MAKE US DO SOMETHING FOR WHICH YOU WILL HAVE TO REPENT FOR AGES. TERI AATMAA KO BHI KAHIN SHAANTI NAHIN MILEGI. IF YOU DON'T REMOVE IT IMMEDIATELY THEN YOU TURN BEGGAR WITHIN A FORTNIGHT. YOU WILL FORGET ALL KNOWLEDGE SUCH IS THE CURSE WE PRONOUNCE UPON YOU. WE HAVE ADVISED YOU PEACEFULLY. PAR LAGTAA HAI LATON KEI BHOOT BATON SEI NAHIN MAANTEI. TERI SAARI PUNDITGIRI YAHIN NIKAL DEINGEI. TEREI JASEI DHONGI PUNDITON KO HUMEIN THIK KARNAA ATAA HAI.
Yes you are right, but straightly giving comments to not to read this book or that book of any particular author is not correct. One must go through the contents and language writen by the author. I know of some books by Srimali very useful for the the beginers while the others are very confusing. So being an senior astrologer one must be fair in recommendation without any professional jealousy.
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if u split on sun at 12 noon ..what will happened.
ReplyDeleteDear All, We have to accept the fact that we are free to express our views. However, we should maintain discreet with dignity and that is only possible while bringing "quote unquote" with care. I personally feel that the way this feedback is posted is not appropriate. I am sorry to say that reacting on something, which is more or less like a Loose Talk with hate mails or threatening someone with the use of Tantra is not appropriate for any human being.
ReplyDeleteMoreover, it is not appropriate for any Senior in the field of astrolgy to use words which can spark debates or conflicts with any interest group. Dear Sir,such a senior person must take quick corrective steps in resolving conflicts which is evidently missing in this post.
deep
Punit Pandey,
ReplyDeleteThe point is that you are being stubborn with your opinion which you believe to be right. Because of some small publicity that you already have with this astrology 'business', your ego is not letting your opinion go as it thinks that it is 'authoritative' since you a re 'senior astrologer' in the eyes of your clients.
I humbly request you to remove this Dr. Shrimali defaming propaganda from your website which is not going to bring you any good at all neither in terms of business, nor in terms of any public image elevation. Only harm on all fronts. And the wave has only started. Why are you inviting this to yourself for nothing? Are you stupid? I don't think so. You have worked up a name as an astrologer all these years. There has to be a good cause for struggle and fight. What is yours?
This loose comments posted by yourself is not really responsible of you Mr. Pandey. Tomorrow 50 other sites debunk and defame Astrosage and Punit Pandey publicly as an astrologer!! - how good will you feel about it?? Please give it a thought and act wisely and responsibly. After all, we are all a part of the same society and creation. We are all wanting and striving towards spirituality.
If you knew Dr. Shrimali closely, you wouldn't have dared to make such loose comments about him. This is a Guru who came and changed my life in one day!! With whom many life saving miracles are connected directly with my own life. I have studied and practiced enough occult for the past 20 years.
For the past 20 years, I've been an intensive practitioner of Martial arts, qi gong, Dim mak, yoga, tantra sadhna, jyotish and numerology. After meeting Dr. Shrimali I was able to achieve newer heights that I wasn't able to before and opened up newer horizons in all realms of sadhna that I strived for. This is not a joke or a mere hailing of my Guru. This is my life's experience. He gave me more than what any palm top commercial astrology software can ever. At the most it can malfunction.
The time is good. I hope and wish for your wise understanding. Thank you and regards.
Punit Pandey,
ReplyDeleteThe point is that you are being stubborn with your opinion which you believe to be right. Because of some small publicity that you already have with this astrology 'business', your ego is not letting your opinion go as it thinks that it is 'authoritative' since you a re 'senior astrologer' in the eyes of your clients.
I humbly request you to remove this Dr. Shrimali defaming propaganda from your website which is not going to bring you any good at all neither in terms of business, nor in terms of any public image elevation. Only harm on all fronts. And the wave has only started. Why are you inviting this to yourself for nothing? Are you stupid? I don't think so. You have worked up a name as an astrologer all these years. There has to be a good cause for struggle and fight. What is yours?
This loose comments posted by yourself is not really responsible of you Mr. Pandey. Tomorrow 50 other sites debunk and defame Astrosage and Punit Pandey publicly as an astrologer!! - how good will you feel about it?? Please give it a thought and act wisely and responsibly. After all, we are all a part of the same society and creation. We are all wanting and striving towards spirituality.
If you knew Dr. Shrimali closely, you wouldn't have dared to make such loose comments about him. This is a Guru who came and changed my life in one day!! With whom many life saving miracles are connected directly with my own life. I have studied and practiced enough occult for the past 20 years.
For the past 20 years, I've been an intensive practitioner of Martial arts, qi gong, Dim mak, yoga, tantra sadhna, jyotish and numerology. After meeting Dr. Shrimali I was able to achieve newer heights that I wasn't able to before and opened up newer horizons in all realms of sadhna that I strived for. This is not a joke or a mere hailing of my Guru. This is my life's experience. He gave me more than what any palm top commercial astrology software can ever. At the most it can malfunction.
The time is good. I hope and wish for your wise understanding. Thank you and regards.
heyy why you guys feel that this recommendation is insulting to Dr Srimali?
ReplyDeleteWhen I first read it belive me I felt as if it is a very high standard book not suitable for beginners just like theory of relativity if not suitable for beginners of Physics?
Come on guys why you take `praise' as `insult' untill you guys have some inferiority complex.
So far as tantrik war is concerned better use them on corrupt politicians and beuraucrates who have destroyed this great nation and civilisation.
use tantric power against china and terrorists who are making your people's life as hell.
Why you gys even think of using yur tantric sword on your fellow astrologer only becasue he praised Dr Srimali?
Does really dr Srimaali has become a Brhamgyani and started making Chelas as some have refered him as `my Guruji'?
As per my limited knowledge , a prson who have seen God himself and `sarvabhoothite ratah' is the only one eligible to make disciples. The person who himself never seen God can not because a blind man can not show way to others.
punit u have a long way to go to become a good astrologer and this is my prediction once in ur life u gonna repent accusing gurudev, wait the time will come.
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ReplyDeletepunit u have a long way to go to become a good astrologer and this is my prediction ...
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Mr. Anonymous, are you also a "gurudev" as you are making predictions for me without any janma kundali etc. True sign of gurudev! I am obliged having another gurudev on my blog.
punit, people like u need janma kundali to make predictions when it comes to me i can make a prediction out of people behaviour and if u read between the lines u will know on what basis i am making ur prediction and yes i am a gurudev when it comes to making prediction from beaviour and manners and by the way i think your parents taught u computer and kundalis not manners, learn it boy ur offspring will benefit from u.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, why comment anonymously? Why this cowardliness? If you are such a knowledgeable person, why not to debate openly. Stop praising yourself and come forward for the debate. Why you feel that commenting anonymously, not mentioning even your name are manners? I hope your guruji didn't teach you this cowardliness and 'manners' ?
ReplyDeleteDear Punit Pandey,
ReplyDeleteMyself an astrologer for last 25 years, had gone through your comment on Dr. Srimali's books on Jyotish on 25 April, 2004 though long back, but as I seen the site today, would like to comment on this.
I had read so may original books including the books listed by you and still my reading and research going on, I must point out that in no way the books written by Dr Srimali are harmful, confusing or may create any negative sense on beginners. Rather the instructions are straight forward, and my experience says they are more correct then any particular original text.
In some other books as referred by you, the opinions of different sages are clearly explained, no doubt, but the conclusion is left for the reader/practitioner. So do you think a beginner can take decision regarding which one is best for the situation/question he has been asked for?
My opinion in this case, is strictly follow Dr. Sirmali's book and go on prediction, when the beginner feels now I am matured enough to go through others, he may do him/herself to look into the piles of other published/unpublished books.
In the conclusion, I strongly recommend all the beginners to must go through the books by Dr Srimali and whereever they face any confusion/ambiguity in prediction, they should take the one recommended by Dr Srimali as granted (final).
An advice from me that an astrologer, when praise one and hate other, that means he is considering himself as Brahma, which is nothing but that persons ego. I never expect such things will come from mouth of a well known jyotish like you.
With regards
Susant
punit here is the answer to ur queries?
ReplyDelete1. why comment anonymously?
ans. cauze i dont want to make a name by criticizing anybody.
2. Why not debate openly?
ans. not interested in taming a bull, and its no good teaching morals to a a wild beast.
Hi Punit,
ReplyDeleteI dont know you, and I have not met Dr. Shrimali. But I have the utmost respect for his work.
However, I would ask not to be afraid of threats. If people make such threats, it shows that they are not in control of their own nature.
One word of advice. You might mean well by posting that article, but I think people are offended by the way you have worded the article rather than what you really want to say. Its a matter of perspective.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Anand