Sunday, May 17, 2009

Web.Bot 2012 - Best Method for Future Predictions or a Scam

Web.Bot project caught public attention when History channel telecasted a program on "end of the civilization in year 2012". Web.Bot predictions, being in line with previous predictions made by ancient "seers" and civilizations, caught public eyes quickly. Also unlike older methods of predictions, predictions are said to be based on search engine algorithms combined with natural language processing which makes it attractive for scientific brain. project claims to predict Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy, 9/11 attacks, present ecomomic crisis and many many more such events in advance.

For those of you who do not know, the web bot technology uses a system of spiders to crawl the Internet and search for keywords, much like a search engines like Google. In a simple language, crawling means going to a list of web locations in an automatated fashion by a software program. When a keyword is located, the bot program takes a snapshot of the text preceding and following the keyword. Though unlike search engine, this snapshot of text is sent to a central location and processed using some astrology-like algorithm known to the developers of project only. Based on the limited information available on Internet, the algorithm uses theories similar to I Ching (Chinese Astrology) combined with the physics theory of time. The idea is to tap into the "collective unconscious" of the universe by the use of Internet and using it for predictions.

From the ' project' website – “What becomes obvious when reading about the technology is that it sometimes reads a bit like the I Ching (the Chinese Book of Changes) because the technology doesn't come out and say "go look for a terrorist attack over there" What it does is gives phrases that would be associated with how people talk about an event, or more accurately, how they change their speech to reflect their thought processes because of an event (after). The web bot technology apparently taps in to an area of preconscious awareness.”

They claim to predict Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy, 9/11 and many such events in advance. It seems they also predicted end of the civilization in year 2012 on Hisotry channel that has given them popularity. Here I quote from their website -

The Global Consciousness Project registered what appears to have been a disturbance in "the force" or the regularly orderly operation of life associated with 9/11. Supposed "random" numbers generated all over the world appeared to become less random immediately prior to 9/11.

Is it possible to predict future with this kind of technology? Being a software engineer, having knowledge of astrology and IChing, and having knowledge of search engine web bots, I seriously doubt the whole theory. I have my reasons for that. 

Web.Bot predictions are primarily based on the assumption that ‘we know a little bit in advance’ about the future. In other words, suppose somebody is going to attack you, you will be ready to defend yourself few seconds before the first move made by the attacker. The physics' theory of time is stated behind the reasoning of theory of 'preconsciousness'. In other words, you consciousness tells you in advance that something is going to happen. The claims to gather that collective consciousness from the Internet and process using some inhouse developed software.

This theory has some serious flaws though. No doubt that the Internet is the best place (so far available to us) to gather “collective consciousness”. There are people participating in discussion forums, writing blogs and contributing to Internet in some way or another. That information is available for web crawler to crawl and interpret using their own formula.

There are no scientific proof available to support preconsciousness theory used by the project. Assuming that the preconsciousness theory is correct and we get some clues for future in advance, I wonder why they are seeing clues shaping only few months ahead of the event? Why they are not getting it in much advance time period, especially if we see from the universal perspective (on which time theory is based), 3 months seems to be a very small period. This suits to the astrologer, but I am not able to understand why it is suiting to the universe. Similar theory, like astrology, never claims that these start getting indication of an event just three months before the time. If 'preconsciousness' theory is based on the light speed and the theory of time, whatever be the prediction, a web bot should be able to see it only few seconds ahead of event and not months ahead.  

Also are these clues provided by Internet is enough? The project is claiming success since 1990. That time there was very little community participation/ blogs/ discussion forums on Internet. From where this project was gathering information to predict that accurately that time? How that “collective human consciousness” was being gathered that time?

Also any branch of science takes some time to develop. Astrology took thousands of years before it come to the present shape and still developing. Similar to the development process of any science, astrology also requires hit and trials. The time taken by this theory to develop doesn’t look inline with the natural knowledge development process.

Then why a channel like History channel telecasting such a program on a hoax at very first place? History channel guys are the right people to answer this question, but I feel that History channel is not behaving responsibly in this case. After studying information available on Internet, it invites serious questions. The person behind the project is hidden and not disclosed his identity. Most of the sections of the website are taken down. The payments are taken using Paypal probably to maintain anonymity. There is no name of the company on the website. I wonder why they want to hide all this information.

I would also like people to read this post available on History channel’s discussion forum - This post also suggests that whole project is a hoax/scam and created to manipulate the stock market. It seems that the History channel is knowingly/ unknowingly playing in the hand of those manipulators which is very unfortunate. Please stay away from the project. 


  1. Well done Punit! I've always been sceptical of the Web Bot, even though it dovetails in with my own 2012 theories. I'll only believe them when they make accurate predictions ahead of time.

  2. Anonymous3:42 AM

    I appreciate your views on the web bot thing very much. I first heard about it on that History Channel show and found it odd that it was so hard to find anything else on it. What little I'm able to find suggests it's only a scam.

  3. Anonymous11:10 PM

    I've been following the Web Bot guys for a while and while I was initially impressed, it has become obvious over time that 1) their predictions are little more than chance hits and 2) they are fringe kooks. The ALTA reports are nothing more than the age-old scam to reap $$$ off of suckers who want to know the future. If you ignore what the two guys claim are accurate hits and actually go back and make up a list of what the ALTA reports/Web Bot guys predict for 2009 and what happened, you can quickly see it's a bunch of bunk. Whenever they push something hard and it doesn't come true, they claim that "time" changed to a different reality or their favorite fallback - they can't really distinguish between the talk about things and the reality of things occurring based on linguistic hits. What a perfect excuse!

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  6. Good debunking of the Webbot project, Mr. Pandey. It's really quite amazing that, given Webbot's high profile and money-making, it's so difficult to find any critical assessment of its truth value and scientific basis on the web. After searching for nearly an hour, I finally found this site.

    Having bought & read of Clif High's ALTA reports back in late 2008, I already thought High's language was too vague and imprecise to make his predictions scientific. Mr. Pandey also makes a very good point here about High's secretiveness. I searched in vain on the net for a picture of him. Can't find even a single one. He gives only radio, not on camera, interviews. And no one really knows if Clif High is a real name.

    One has to ask why the secrecy. No other business conceals the owner's true identity, real name, or visage. Nor can one attribute this to High being afraid of looney-bins because he sure talks tough on his HalfPastHuman site.

    The key is always the secrecy. Truth seeks and loves the light. In contrast, falsity, deception, and evil always conceal and love the dark.

    Thank you, Mr. Pandey!