Monday, September 15, 2008

Shani Sade-Sati

There are total 12 signs. Sade Sati is a relative position of your sign where Moon is posited in your birth chart (Moon Sign or Rashi) and the current position of Saturn (Shani). The currently planetary position is called Transit position or Gochar position in astrological terminology. When Saturn is transiting through the 12th, 1st, and 2nd house from the natal (birth) moon, this is termed as Sade-sati. Sate-sati starts when Saturn (Shani) enters the 12th sign from the birth Moon and ends when Saturn leaves 2nd sign from the birth Moon. "Sade-sati" literally means 7 ½ i.e. 'seven and a half'. Saturn stays 2 ½ years on an average in a sign. So, in three signs combined, Saturn stays for 7 ½ and hence it is called sade-sati.

Similarly, when Saturn passes through the 4th house from the birth moon, it is supposed to give negative results. This position of Saturn is called Ardha Sade-sati (Half-Sade-sati) or Dhaiya, Panoti, or Adhayia. Some people consider the transit of Saturn from the 5th house of the natal moon as negative because it affects the quality of one’s judgment. When Saturn passes through the 8th house from the natal moon, it is called Astham Sani (8th Saturn). This 8th house transit is considered equally negative like the Sade-sati transit.

Sade-sati is very much hyped by Vedic astrologers and this period of seven and a half year is said to be very inauspicious. According to some, this is a period with many challenges, some unforgettable. People passing through the period of sade-sati, people may encounter road accidents, fractures, sudden falls from high positions, acute shortage of money, serious health problems and so on. Person passing through sade-sati is prescribed various remedies and parihars like mantra, japa, donation, and havan etc.

There are total 12 signs and as Saturn takes 2 ½ years to pass one sign, Saturn takes total 30 years for pass through all the 12 signs. Out of each 30 years, 7 ½ year are taken by sade-sati. If we include Dhaiya also, out of 30 years 12 ½ years are affected by Sade-sati and Dhaiya. If we also include 5th house and 8th house, we can add another 5 years which means out of each 30 years 17 ½ years are considered inauspicious due to Saturn transit.

There are two reasons for the existence of sade-sati. First, astrologers need some ways by which they can scare people and make money. By associating Sade-sati with Saturn, it is easy to scare poor people and make money in by suggesting gemstones and performing remedies for them. Sade-sati, like Kalsarpa dosha, is a good way for astrologers and pundits to make money. Secondly, astrologers who don’t understand astrology need some ways to explain bad events astrologically. As we have seen above, out of every 30 years, 17 ½ years are classified problematic by astrologers so they can easily blame Saturn for any problem in life. This is nothing but sheer lack of astrological knowledge.

In astrology, the birth chart (Janam kundli) should be studied in totality and an astrologer need to see various points like planet’s rashi position, Nakshatra position, position in various divisional charts, bala, aspects, various dasas etc. before concluding anything. The astrologers who don’t have knowledge of analyzing birth chart in totality depend upon concept like sade-sati and kalsarpa dosha for explaining all negative events.

How to Calculate Sade-Sati?
You need to know your moon sign to knowing your sade sati period. If you don't already know your moon sign, you can use http://www.astrosage.com/ for knowing it. Once you know your Moon sign, go again to astrosage.com and cast the chart for today (by entering today's date and time) and check the sign where Saturn is posited. If the present sign of Saturn is equal to the sign of Moon, previous sign of Moon or next sign of Moon, it means you are passing though the sade sati. For example your Moon sign is Virgo (sign number 6), then if Saturn is in sign number 5 (Leo), 6 (Virgo) or 7 (Libra), you are passing though Sade-sati period.
[Update 2012: You can go to Shani Sade Sati Calculator at AstroSage.com and calculate your shani sade sati for life.]

Remedies for Sade-Sati
OK, what should be the remedies for Sade-Sati? According to me, there is no remedy require for Sade Sati. As mentioned above, Sade-sati is nothing but either a money making tool for an astrologer or result of astrologer's lack of knowledge. There are thousands of examples where a person got fame, fortune and finance during the period of Sade-sati. Indira Gandhi, Jawahar Lal Nehru, and Bill Clinton are much quoted such examples. The objective of this post to make my readers understand sade sati and understand that there is nothing to fear about. If you are facing any problem in life, the birth chart should be analyzed in totality and the remedies should be performed accordingly. Please, please, please don’t get influenced by fraud astrologers and disturb your mental peace & waste your money.

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2. Shani Sade Sati in Year 2008
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4. Shani Sade Sati calculator with detailed report

30 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:18 PM

    please give gocher of shani in detail that is when it is changing its position etc. and what do one mean by swarn paad and loh paad etc

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  2. Anonymous11:14 PM

    Hi Punit,

    Your articles are wonderful. They remove ignorance, as Lord the says "Ignorance is the cause of all suffering"

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  3. when start shani sadheshati in virgo? laxmidinesh03@gmail.com

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  4. It is to bring up in your kind knowledge that Sani-Sade Sati and Dhayya are real things. They need to be taken care of. They are not only hype. Please see that the transit of Saturn over and adjecent to Moon does create problems, even for people you just mentioned.

    It needs detection as to how much these problems are and also what are the counter factors for it. Invaraible Sade Sati does put pressure on the individiual and thus is needed to be taken care of. The desposition of Lagna and Moon Sign of the individual in question are the major points as to how satrun reacts. So dont be so easy goinf with such a important part. Gochar of Sani is one of the most important ones apart from Juoiter. As you can see that the gochar of Sani in Simha have created so much problems for the people who were uncareful with the money and expenditure in the whole world.

    Thanks
    vikaslaxmi@gmail.com

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  5. Hi Puneet,

    I totally agree with you.
    I myself passing thorough Period of sade sati(Moon Sign -Virgo, Ascedent-Aquarius) and had been having wonderful experiences.

    When sade sati started in early 2006, was the exact time at which I left my job and started business with my friend.

    One astrologer asked me 'Who asked you to start business in sade sathi?' I didn't have answer.

    Since last 3 years I don't have any income but many things to learn from and being practical in life. I have also experienced being much frustrated and impatient. I also got detached from my family and friends.

    But I know I am passing through the period of transition and have to be more patient.

    Thanks for good article

    -Parag
    paragmahajan111@gmail.com

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  6. dear punit , My Birth Rashi is Simha , and Shani Maharaj is in my rashi for the last 2+ years with Loh Paad ... If anyone really wants to know what happens in a sade sati he should read shani chalisa carefully .. everything is explained very neatly and clearly .. and believe me I have experienced everything word to word ...And I read it only 3 months back and realised that I was seeking answers from every single person, god and the answers were right there ... However I do agree PUNIT on a couple of aspects .. This period has changed me for good thats what I feel from within .. It has made me realise what a wastage My pre sade sati life was .. the rat race , the materialistic outlook .. and so on ... So all I would say to my friends there from my experience ... If you get hit - Just recite - pls do not listen to taperecorders and cd .. you personally recite ...the following EVERYDAY - Vishnu Sahastranaam, Sankat Mochan Hanuman Chalisaa, Gayatri Mantra ,and Please remember to Offer prayers to your Family god ( Kuldevataa ) take care of your PARENTS ...elders.. God Bless

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  7. Hi thank you so much for giving this information. Some astrologer told me that your sade sati is starting from sep 2009 and the day she told me i was really in worry. I think you are right, there is nothing to fear about it. It just spoils mental peace.
    Thanks again.

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  8. Anonymous9:39 PM

    Hi Punit,

    Moon in positions 12,1,2,4,5,8 would amount to 15 years.

    I wish you can reword "According to me, there is no remedy require for Sade Sati." Chanting the hanuman chalisa and ganesh stotras are "prasiddha remedies" for Saturn related problems.

    Ganebhyo Ganapathibhyaschavo Namah

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  9. Anonymous8:08 PM

    Re. How to Calculate Sade-Sati?

    Could you provide the link to the chart? I couldn't find it among the numerous links.

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  10. my dob 03.08.1973 and time 2.20am at GORAKHPUR INDIA.i am treveling through job . when i will get a goverment service.i have two attampts for gov job? Sudhir mishra

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  11. Anonymous1:50 PM

    Thanks for your wonderful articles and its remove my ignorance, ultimately everything depend on almighty god. According to me Karma is one of the key factor here, SHANI is planate of perfection its clears all dirty from the mankind.
    Regards
    Soumendra
    sbc.2006@sify .com

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  12. Anonymous11:35 PM

    THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT SADE SATI

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  13. sani is the creator of goodpath, men will realise when they face difficulties what is the life, sani maharaj really helps all to overcome difficulties

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  14. Hi.,, gr8 article., ! congrats & best wishes.,.,
    i(Vergo)m suffering from sade sati., since 2007-08, exprnced some horrible (deadly accident..).., as wel as plesent (got married&b'came ftaher of a Beutiful BOY) things..,,!
    i d like to know about coming days for me.., so as to take necessory care & be alert.,
    i also heard dat SHANI MAHARAJ is entering in VERGO again., hw this could be this time??
    plz. advice.,, with thanks & rgds
    RAVI

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  15. Baishali1:50 PM

    Its a wounderful and logical article.I liked your rational views towards astrological predictions.Thank you..

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  16. hi i am rahul ,born on 3rd April 1989 my rashi is TULA.m going thru the worst time of my lyf.lots of problem facing these days,hard to survive.i hav been to pandit he said its sade sati.m totally demoralised now.pursuing my engineering h,hardly i make my studies.i dnt know what to do..cud u plz help me

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  17. sir i want to know about my career.ie could i get goverment job to me or not.
    my email:bagde.sumesh@gmail.com

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  18. Dear Punit,

    I am really happy to see your article, i am also interested in astrology and wrote a similar article but that was very badly written. When i read yours i feel proud you expressed it in a right way. I wish you a very good luck.

    mangal kothari

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  19. Anonymous6:17 PM

    Hi Puneet,

    Felt much better after reading your article,it was very transparent on its views, being a virgo I have gone through a lot of trouble from 2006 mostly financial and yeah loads of depression and lack of mental peace .But this year I got married and also for no reason I left my job. Somehow recently I have been facing weird feelings where for no reason depression has increased when there is no reason to be sad ,financial worries still persist but I have learned a lot how to manage things in a smart and effective way .Even I was abroad for a couple of times .One thing for all sadhe sati ppl is if ur are scared you will fall for more depression and if you are having ur basics right, full faith in god and hard work and learn from your mistakes you will definitely do well thou I know I mentioned too many paramaters but after reading all of the members above I also thought why not personally share some views of mine which might help someone out there.
    god bless you all.

    regards
    Bugsy

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  20. Anonymous3:52 AM

    The malaise with so called "modern day vedic astrology" is that it is completely disconnected from spirituality and the scriptures which actually give any credibility to it in the first place. The attempts to modernise vedic astrology are a clear result of this. I suggest sir, that since you happen to be in this category, you should study the vedic scriptures very carefully and synchronise your understanding of astrology with spiritual knowledge which can only come with following spiritual practices and only THEN go on to make these judgements. With all due respect and honour you deserve, I do not challenge your knowledge of jyotish shastra, but it is clearly still in a stage where it is maturing and so you shouldn't make such judgements and confuse people even more.

    As for sade sati, there is nothing to worry about it. I completely agree with you. But it is real nonetheless. Just as real as the existence of planet Saturn. It has a profound effect on people's lives. It is a learning period and not one to be worried about though it brings worries and gains depending to the amount of sanchit karma one has in his account. It is an essential part of life. One who learns from sade sati, will be sucessful. One who refutes it or is scared, will only see misery. This is how things are.

    Anyhow, good luck to all those who are facing sade sati and I would encourage a non-judgemental and rational approach to studying sade sati and jyotish shastra in general, and specifically, in the light of vedic scriptures. Do not disconnect yourself and make astrology a dry subject. It's not mathematics by itself. There is more to it. Look inwards before you look at the texts and study astrology.

    Hari om!

    - Jyotish Bhushan Pundit Suryakant Sharma

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  21. Can u pls give me some astrology advice??

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  22. Anonymous5:59 PM

    hi... my rashi and lagna is virgo.almost since 3 years i have been going thru worst patch of my life...financial challanges haunted me for first 2 years(only losses and no income) but with god grace and hard work i overcame it....it deed taught me a lesson and changed my life for better and made me a better person....but no sooner did i overcame overcame financial challange that other problem cropped up.... not one but many of them.....so i think sade sati is for real....there will be challanges but its meant to make you a good person than ever before....face them...learn from your mistake...be courageous and you will emerge out as a better person.....last but not the least have faith in GOD....

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  23. madhukar Dhiman7:21 PM

    I am delighted by your post. Do you do a reading of janam patris also. Please let me know. My mail is madhukardhiman@yahoo.com

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  24. Anonymous3:18 PM

    hi

    After reading ur article, i felt much better. I just now came seeing the TV where an astrologer was saying something about Kanya rashi and how bad this year 2010 will be. My mother was also listening along with me and i didn't know how to react to that as u see right now i am going through a bad phase where i feel detached from my family members. But after reading ur article i felt really better. Thank you

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  25. Anonymous11:25 PM

    thanxs feeling better after reading all comments.

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  26. Anonymous2:42 PM

    DEAR PUNIT, THANKS FOR WRITING INTRESTING DETAILS ABOUT SADESATHI, AND YOUR WWARNINGS TO NOT TO GO TO PEOPLE WITH FAKE KNOWLEDGE SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. I ENJOYED READING UR BLOG, THX ONCE AGAIN FOR THE SERVICE
    SANGEETAPRAVEEN@YAHOO.COM

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  27. I have Simha Rashi, undergoing the so called Sade saati Phase - the third one, which is supposedly ending in Jan 2012. It started in 2004 Aug. I have experienced wonderful effects during this phase. I just learnt that one has to be morally strong to undergo the transformation at every path of life. If you are spiritually strong, you will win the battles of life..... IN SHORT, THE EFFECTS OF SADE SAATI ARE TO BE ENJOYED & NOT TO BE SACRED OF....ITS A LEARNING PHASE, MAKING US MORALLY STRONG & THIS MORAL STRENGTH COME FROM CHILDHOOD & IF IT DOESNOT COME FROM CHILDHOOD, IT IS BETTER TO BECOME A CHILD NOW TO BECOME MORALLY STRONG, AT LEAST NOW....

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  28. There is no such phase as saade saati, as all days are governed by self & this governance will be pure, if you are morally & spiritually strong.

    Moral strength can be cultivated from childhood, & if not cultivated, then its better to start cultivating, at lease from this instant...

    I have simha raashi. I am really enjoying this phase of the so called saade saati, which they say, started from Aug 2004 & ends in Jan 2012. I have become stronger & stronger in this phase & become morally stronger..........

    Jai Shani Dev!!! Long Live Human Beings with his power....

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  29. Anonymous12:04 AM

    Sade sati is a transit like any other, but if Sani is afflicted in your chart, you will face great challenges. In my chart sani is in 12th house, weak and afflicted, with Mars also in the 12th house.

    Out of personal experience, if Sani is not well positioned in your chart, you will- without any doubt- suffer a great deal.

    But there is hope!

    The key is to act like Shani: modest,slow,disciplined,hard work,NO indulgence of any kind,accept loneliness, meditate or take a spiritual hobby.

    If you are not able to make this change of character the solution is in reciting the Sani mantra's. After a while your character will change itself, you will be more disciplined, save more money, be OK with being alone, and more features of Sani.

    "OM PRAANG PRIEN PROUNG" 8 X 108 times per day for a periode of 6 months.

    Chant daily (9X) the gaytri of sani "SANAISCARYA WIEDMEHE, MEHAADEVAAJE DHIEMEHIE, TENNO SANIDEV PRACHODAYAAT". This mantra is one of the best there is. Sani will be very pleased when you acknowledge him as "mehaadevaaje". Try it, you won't regret it.

    Chant daily(9X) the puranic mantra NILANJANA SAMA BHASAM RAVIPUTRAM YAMA GRAJAM CHHAAYA MARTANDA SAMBHOOTAM TAM NAMAMI SHANAISHCHARAM

    Good luck! And don't forget, Sani is the great teacher. He can do it the hard way, or you can chant the mantra's and will experience the less radical side of sade sati. In any case, you will change! There is no escape!

    Ashvin

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  30. My personal experience states that Ashtama Shani or Ardhashtama Shani can be quite trying and testing albeit the influence of Rahu, Ketu and Dasha Bhukti also matters! Sade-Sati is more of tests and challenges thrown at you .... it's like a storm blowing at you at over 300 MPH; You can resist it and suffer all the troubles or just lie low and let it pass and get out unscathed!!! :)

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